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You scored as The Breaker SEME You are the most imaginative, helpful, and strong-hearted SEME out there. You can be quiet and helpful at the same time which is a rarity. You're good at listening to others and you don't deny their ideas. One thing you can't stand is seeing someone sad, crying, or otherwise unhappy. Those who think you're shy aren't always the most right but it's true you don't need to talk much unless you have something important to say. You would be paired with the Sorrowful UKE because everyone needs a shoulder to cry on and you're just the guy/gal for the job. It's best to avoid the Homicidal SEME but even if you do that it's easy for someone as calm and helpful as you to get mixed up in the schemes of the certain Devilish UKE. You are truly best placed with the Gentle SEME as a buddy. For my last info, I have to say that you really don't mind and will go with the flow - whatever your partner is into is fine by you but considering who you're best matched with I'd say that they'd be too scared to do anything out of the ordinary. Give them a little nudge to let 'em know it's alright, okay?
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Okay, yes. I guess after taking a Myers-Briggs type indicator test recently, it fits. But...seme? Hmm. A bit ironic, actually, since I was just pondering the other day the quandary of why I seem to write so much 85 when 58 makes more sense to me in light of canon interactions. Still, switching is good.
Strange.
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Okay, yes. I guess after taking a Myers-Briggs type indicator test recently, it fits. But...seme? Hmm. A bit ironic, actually, since I was just pondering the other day the quandary of why I seem to write so much 85 when 58 makes more sense to me in light of canon interactions. Still, switching is good.
I like 85 because Hakkai is a control freak, and I don't see why that wouldn't extend to the bedroom either. Gojyo is more outgoing/easygoing than Hakkai, and I think he'd pretty much go along with whatever made Hakkai more comfortable. I do think he'd top from the bottom though, at least some of the time. Or they'd switch it up occassionally. But I think Hakkai would take control most of the time, just as he does when they're on the road and there's something he wants Gojyo to do (or not).
MY THOUGHTS ON YAOI, LET ME SHOW YOU IT
In my personal fanon, I assume Kanan was Gonou's first and only sexual partner to date -- he was such a weird, intense, unsociable kid that I have trouble seeing him even playing doctor as a child or having an experimental teen phase back in the orphanage. He just doesn't seem the sort for casual friendly flings to me; he needs an intense emotional connection to even let anyone get that close, and at that point he'd be just obsessive (and possessive) towards the loved one. So, no prior same-sex experience -- but given that he had no problems shrugging off societal conventions about incest, I really, really don't think that finding himself in love with/attracted to a man would require a huge mental adjustment on his part; he'd sort of shrug, file it away mentally as yet another quirk of human nature, and move on. If there's any character who would be the sort to say he's falling for a soul or personality and the gender of the body housing it is irrelevant, Hakkai is one who I could honestly believe that was the honest truth rather than a lofty-sounding cliche.
Gojyo, while we know from canon is an enthusiastic ladies' man, my fanon is that he's had at least a few same-sex experiences -- hustling for survival in his younger days, and quite possibly something with Banri. I don't think that he would ever want to admit to it, and wouldn't self-identify as bi -- he's got so many self-image problems already, I think he'd be one who would really struggle with the idea that same-sex attraction/experience might make him seem weak or unmanly, some how. Also, while he's slept around the block and back, I don't think he's ever been in love -- at least, not with anyone who ever loved him back; perhaps there may have been the odd one-sided crush here or there, but I don't get the feeling he's ever been with anyone who really wanted him for more than a good-looking easy lay.
So just as far as sheer variety of experience goes, I'd think Gojyo has Hakkai beat; he's done more and kinkier stuff just as a matter of opportunity; but like Avi notes, I think he's so easygoing and willing to please that a lot of the kink is less about him being kinked to the bone, and more about him being a total "sure, why not?" try-anything sort who'll go along with just about anything that seems to make a partner happy. I don't tend to think he has any problems with it, and probably enjoys it quite a bit, but he'd also probably be pretty happy even with just totally vanilla stuff; so long as everybody's getting off and he's getting ego-boosting feedback on his performance, it's all good. I can see him being a fairly enthusiastic consumer of porn, but it'd all be the most mass-market commercial sort of magazine and video stuff.
Hakkai, on the other hand...he may not have had the chance to do nearly as much, but I suspect that between his esoteric reading, penchant for the most random instructional materials and his twisty twisty mind, he's spent a LOT of time thinking about things, and not all that thinking may have been totally vanilla. He's a control freak, he can be quite subtly manipulative when he wants, he clearly has no problems with doing something he wants even if society says it's sick and wrong... Add in all of his screamingly huge guilt and punishment issues, the tight repression and control of that wild, violent id-youkai side, and oh yeah let's not forget the stoic self-mutilation, and my BDSM-potential kinkdar just pings right off the freakin' scale. Gojyo can maybe recite all the measurements of his favorite centerfolds, but Hakkai's the one who seems like he might have pored over the most arcane bits of the Kama Sutra and Taoist sex manuals, or read De Sade in the original...
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Yeah, I have thought from day 1 that Gojyo probably turned tricks as a kid. I mean, realistically what else is a 12-year-old going to do to survive? (I wonder if this is why Minekura hasn't gone too much into Gojyo's past... that maybe a a Bit Much, and hey, we can all read between the lines pretty well).
As for Banri, it was really driven home to me in the Burial OVA that Banri was at least bisexual. I hadn't realized from reading the manga what it was he was doing when he was sort of looking at Hakkai side-long with his hand raise. But in the OVA, he's actually shown running the back of his hand along Hakkai's face in a sort of caress (well, we all know how well that went ;P ). Also,
I hope they run across Banri again. He is such an unrepentant bastard, what's not to love. :D
Hakkai is the kink-meister, eh? I have always thought so. ;D I am not sure he and Gojyo would get into S&M though, I think that might be hugely issue-laden for Gojyo. D/s, sure, there is already elements of that in their relationship. Bondage, maybe, heck, some of that isn't even all that kinky really.
I totally agree with your comments about uke-Hakkai being so only because it would be what he wants. And yeah, totally topping from the bottom (funny how I see both of them doing that, hahaha)
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Hee. If the series continues ad infinitum, I could see that. Banri adds such an interesting (tense) dynamic to 585. I bet he could tell lots of stories about the good old days. (Personally I would love to see him make a reappearance just so Hakkai can give him the comeuppance that he truly deserves.) ^_^
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And yeah, as far as the kink spectrum goes, I'd tend to see Hakkai much more on the DS/BD side of things; and even there I tend to think he'd be very very much on the subtle side of things, less about barking orders and more about quietly purred suggestions that you know better than to refuse. (And, well, those vines just scream "BONDAGE POTENTIAL" to me, of course. Mmmmmm. Vines.) SM I'd agree would be much likelier to be fraught for both of them -- Gojyo both for his history of being physically and emotionally abused, and just for generally being so soft-hearted that I think he'd have a lot of trouble hurting or degrading someone in any way more serious than a little light spanking or the mildest sort of name-calling dirty talk. Per some of the more agonizing stuff
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Actually, I don't think I have too much to add to any of that, it's so clearly stated. ^_^
In my personal fanon, I assume Kanan was Gonou's first and only sexual partner to date
Yeah, I don't think that's too much of a stretch at all. Actually, Chin Isou says "To think your first woman was your older sister...." so the part about nobody before Kanan is canon. Afterwards there's so much emotional baggage I can't see anything happening (plus Gojyo's already there, while Hakkai is healing, so).
but given that he had no problems shrugging off societal conventions about incest, I really, really don't think that finding himself in love with/attracted to a man would require a huge mental adjustment on his part; he'd sort of shrug, file it away mentally as yet another quirk of human nature, and move on.
Brilliant. Exactly so.
my fanon is that he's had at least a few same-sex experiences -- hustling for survival in his younger days, and quite possibly something with Banri.
Also a very logical conclusion. I think it's true that Gojyo would wrestle with the idea of s same-sex relationship more--but as avierra points out, it also depends on how much of that stuff exists in his unwritten past.
(Re: Gojyo) so long as everybody's getting off and he's getting ego-boosting feedback on his performance, it's all good. Hakkai, on the other hand...
LOL! ^_^
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TL; DR, the sequel
So, on the one hand, it's very, very easy to see Hakkai as just a total uber-dom, and Gojyo being easy-going enough to just go with the flow. But at the same time...I can potentially see scenarios where Gojyo is so weirded out about falling seriously for a guy that he'd want to top just to keep things a little bit less threatening to his fragile self-image, and Hakkai being caring and understanding enough (and maybe scheming towards a long-term outcome) to go along with it even if he'd rather top. And Hakkai has that massive massive streak of guilt and self-denial, which I could also see pushing him towards not letting himself have everything he wants because he doesn't deserve it, or he's afraid that he's tempting fate if he's too happy. And with the fussy caretaking side and the terror of losing control, he might be worried that his being in a seme role would be dangerous for Gojyo -- this is pretty much the main aspect in which I can manage to bend my brain around an uke-youkai!Hakkai.
Although if you wanna talk topping from the bottom, that's pretty much the way I see an uke Hakkai in almost any permutation. Gojyo's emotionally needier and Hakkai can think circles around him or subtly manipulate him into doing what he wants; if Hakkai's on the bottom, it's because he *wants* to be there, one way or another.
Meta meta meta!
Hakkai *always* deferrs to Sanzo, even when he doesn't like it. When Gojyo goes after Kami-sama, Hakkai is pissed, but he follows Sanzo until Sanzo decides that they need to turn around. Also (reading lots into body language) when Sanzo leaves the rest of the ikkou and they're walking in the desert, I find it interesting that it's Gojyo who is physically in the lead of their little group. During the time Sanzo's gone, Hakkai makes lots of suggestions and practical observations, but I don't think he makes any decisions for the party as a whole.
IMHO, I don't think canon Hakkai likes publicly making choices for others; I think he prefers to manipulate others into making the choices for him.
(Of course, AU Hakkai is another matter entirely, because then one can dial down his need not to give orders, and dial up the other traits that would lead to the seme role) ^_^
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Yeah, I very much got the impression during their Sanzo-less journey that leadership was a joint responsibility between Gojyo and Hakkai. But you are right, that whole thing was very much a relfection of Kenren and Tempou, with Tempou explaining what had to be done, and Kenren making sure it got done the way Tempou wanted.
As for Sanzo and Hakkai... I am not sure Hakkai is capable of going up against Sanzo, whether out of inclination or a sense of gratitude or whatever. I think he gets Gojyo to do his dirty work for him on that front. Hrmmm. An excellent example is the Kami-sama mah-jong game where Hakkai give Gojyo The Look of Doom to make him play the damn game, and then Gojyo in turn forces Sanzo to play. (Btw, I love Hakkai's Look of Doom, and how it INSTANTLY brings about the desired behavior. I wish I had one of those ;_; )
So, back to G&H, you think that Hakkai would let Gojyo think he was in charge, while totally controlling things? I can see that, actually.
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Sanzo is maybe a little bit of a special case, since Hakkai is tied to him in such a web of giri; Sanzo is most definitely In Charge and Hakkai is bound in the role of the loyal retainer...